Friday, May 21, 2010

WHY Prisoners get Free Health CARE in CALIFORNIA?

Common people in California can barely afford Healthcare. Why shouldnt Prisioners have to pay for it? ie I need a joint replacement. My cost for freedom is to pay an arm and leg for health care and a top premium copay to get it replaced. And be stuck with Bills out the ying yang and still pay taxes for Prisoners go to the ER and receive free health care/Dental care/ eye care. Something needs to be done. People are struggleing out here. The cost of Childcare is crazy. Try going to school to better yourself and pay childcare along with rent and car insurance health insurance and other general bills. For the less fourtunate its a battle. I know theres some out there with some rude thoughts but keep them to your self. S*@! happens. The yearly cost to house a prisoner is 33k a year along with all the Free healthcare they want. I know some are thinking thats the price of freedom I dont want to hear it. We ppl should not be strugglin this hard. The welfare system is a loophole.anothr sub

WHY Prisoners get Free Health CARE in CALIFORNIA?
OK I see your point.


Most prisoners can not afford health care either. (a few can)


It becomes the responsibility of the State to keep anyone in detention at a min. level of health.





Many of the medical procedures they get for free are nasty abuse of privilege.





Still other then the why, it becomes should they get it for free.
Reply:I agree. It's the same way here in Tennessee and I'm a single parent. I have a blood clot in my lung and I could die because I have already $2000 in medical bills I only deliver pizzas. And when I went to try to get health care they told me essentially that I had to be Black, Mexcian, or in prison.
Reply:I agree with you, but it is that way throughout the USA. The hospital I work at is the one they bring the parish prisoners to when they are ill. I have had an HIV prisoner spit at me once. I went crazy and refused to go back in the room to take care of him. Yet he gets free care and I have to pay for it. I don't know what the answer is. Maybe bring the chain gangs back. Make them work for their care. Make them do the highway repairs and build homes for people and work for us if we are going to pay for their keep and their care. I have no other answers. Good luck on your surgery. I hope you get it and all goes well.
Reply:The difference is that as a prisoner, the State has taken custody of the individual. The State then has the obligation to provide food, shelter, clothing, hygenic facilities, security, ...and health care. We've decided in large part that 18th century-style dungeons aren't appropriate for our family members who stray.
Reply:i dont see whats the problem if your sick go to prison for a month and come home good as new :) lol Im australia everythings better here! enjoy
Reply:youre all missing the point.....if an illegal can walk into a hospital and get help with out having to pay,so can we. Just goto the hospital,tell them you dont have a social security number.They CANT deny you....if they do,go talk to an attorney and sue for discrimination and refusal of health care. I would say go to the ACLU but they only help if you are a minority.
Reply:prisoners get free healthcare everyhwere; you douchetard.











And they don't just get "all the free healthcare they want."


They've got infirmaries in prisons and just because they're incarcerated doesn't mean they should be denied basic rights to live like a healthy human being.





And what; persé would you have these prisoners pay with?


The money that they don't earn while rotting away in a cell?
Reply:Nothing special about California, though I suspect as with most things they go to extremes there.





"Local governments are also burdened with health care expenses for inmates. The health care costs racked up in the criminal justice system are significant. The Arizona Republic ran an article which stated that inmate health care is the sector of the criminal justice system in which costs rose the most in the last decade (FY 1997 through 2007). It rose from $11.9 million to $45.5 million. Reasons why include the facts that nearly 25 percent of the prisoners have prescriptions and about 20 percent require psychotropic medications for mental illness. We have psychiatrists, doctors, nurses, and detention officers to provide this care in the system and their salaries add to the costs. The average cost per inmate was over $5K when it had been under $2K a decade earlier. Another significant contributor was the fact that nearly 40 percent of inmates were meth users which automatically resulted in medical costs for their care (“Breakdown of the costs of justice,” 12 August 2007)."--Cassandra Nathan's Save America, Save the World p. 167





We need health care that is QUALITY, ACCESSIBLE, and AFFORDABLE. If we could all agree on that AND that this is something that we do NOT need the government to do (they provide RATIONED care that is BANKRUPT every time), we'd be ahead of the game.





There IS a sensible plan that does NOT force patients on it with fear of fines; does NOT impose the costs on employers; does NOT raise our taxes; and DOES resolve another abuse of the taxpayer in its funding, provides for preventative care (moral and economical), and would prevent bankruptcies (more than half are caused by medical bills and most of those folks have insurance). Check it out:


http://www.booklocker.com/books/3068.htm...


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